Well, dear readers, followers, friends, supporters,

We are now more then 1 year further and no solution yet found.

It is remarkable that lately Immigration tried again behind the back of our laywer and ours to get an interview with the NZ employer.  That attempt was intercepted and the meeting went at the office of our lawyer.  Our laywer’s staff member was present, the employer and 2 immigration officers.   Previous the meeting immigration asked for the actual ,financial figures and employment schedule.   Our lawyer had to point out to immigration that this was irrelevant to the case and not according the agreement made.  We have already a visa granted by immigration and asking financial figures and monthly employment schedule is for an application. Therefore this is irrelevant to ask this.  Moreover the agreement was to take a look again at all the documents, statements and proof in the file.

During the meeting at the lawyer’s office the immigration officers presented about 45 questions to the employer about the stolen emails with the question if the employer could identify them.   Please……these are emails of 1 upto 4 years ago and moreover the statement of the forensic expert clearly stated that the stolen emails were manipulated by the reporting person.  Immigration is also already been informed earlier that emails also have been deleted from the computer of the employer.   Has the statement of the export no value then for immigration?  What is an expert for then?

The meeting was closed as the agreement was that all new issues should first be submitted in writing and this was thus not followed by Immigration.

In the meantime the questions have been submitted in writing by Immigration and our lawyer together with the employer have stated not being aware of these emails.  Also immigration’s attention has again been drawn to the statement of the forensic expert.   And in earlier letters immigration’s attention has been drawn to the fact that they were satisfied with all the evidence and therefore granted the visa.  Further their attention was drawn to the fact that they always need original documents or certified copies.  And now they just go along with copies of stolen emails of which hard and watertight proof has been given that they are unreliable for multiple reasons.

Everybody aware of our situation doesn’t understand why a country which is proud of its multicultural society only investigates one side of the case and seems to be scared of 1 person. Everybody aware of our situation doesn’t understand how it is possible that 1 person is able to get this awfull situation take place.

It is clear there is a hate against us and against persons loving a partner of the same sex.  Where is the multicultural acceptance in NZ now?

How much more must our lifes be ruined? Ruined because of 1 sick person.

We finally received a copy of the reply of INZ through their lawyer.

Instead of receiving the file with the documents that the NZ officer would review, we only received a reply dated on 16/9/2014.  It didn’t surprise us.

But in our perception the letter had a threatening tone. If it was an attempt to scare us off, well, it had just the opposite effect. If someone tries to scare off people by mentioning that they can successfully defend their case and that they would charge the other party with all costs (38.000 NZD), well it looks to us that they can’t. Certainly if they use a threatening tone.

What the letter mentioned regarding counterproof and timeframes, was something we already expected to be the reaction of the opposite party. As mentioned in our previous blog post immigration needs to come forward with sound and credible counterproof.

The letter mentioned that immigration doesn’t accept to come forward with sound and credible counterproof. And they don’t want to work on a particular timeframe whereas we are only given 4 weeks to reply.

Don’t these 2 points sounds like they are trying to get out of the case without loss of face, no matter what. It surely looks like a huge injustice.

We always had to come up within a particular timeframe with sound and credible evidence. And we always did.

And now that they need to come up with sound and credible counterproof they refuse to do so.

Where is the justice in New Zealand?

With this statement it looks clear that immigration doesn’t want to admit they received unreliable information. Is it so hard to admit it?  Is it because loss of face? That would be mostly unacceptable and very unfair and against the law.

It seems to us they want to win the case with weak counterproof or no proof at all. So there the prejudice still remains, despite our strong evidence.

The letter mentioned also that a fraud investigator would be used.  That is logic to us and we understand that very well.   But what documents will they give that fraud investigator to look at?  The unreliable, manipulated and stolen emails? How will a fraud investigator be able to give a clear view on that?  He can’t because those documents are unreliable.   And it seems to us that the counterparty is forcing to get a statement of the fraud investigator anyhow, even on the unreliable documents.  How insane is that?  That is just forcing a way to win in a cunning way.

And regarding court proceedings, they want us to drop the appeals before further costs are made, but on the other hand, they want to defer their decision on pursuing payment of costs until the case is finalised.  That is no balance at all.

And all this the counterparty considers as reasonable and fair!!!!! Come on, let us stay serious.  There is nothing fair and reasonable since the beginning of this case.  As mentioned before we only have experienced obstacles, mistakes and outright injustice.

If immigration says they can defend their case succesfully, then why refusing to come up with credible and sound counterproof, why refuse to reply in a particular time frame, why force us to drop the appeal?   All this kind of refusal and force used against us, shows immigration is not able to defend their case succesfully.

It should be noted that because of the non-cooperation of immigration, the non-consideration of our strong evidence by immigration, the delays caused by immigration, the blind belief of immigration in false allegation of a mental ill and gay-hating New Zealander, this has caused us already a fortune and that has ruined our lives already.

There is no justice at all.   It is a game of money.  Our savings against the money of the Tax Payer in NZ.

There is no justice at all.  It is a game of prejudice and interpretation.  Rules and requirements are only interpreted.

Unless you are rich, then rules and requirements are put aside. It doesn’t matter then if you have a convicted background and if you don’t meet the good character requirement.  Money clears the way.

Important advise to anyone who wants to visit New Zealand : It is a beautiful country but be aware that they only let you in because you can spend money.  For the rest there is nothing but corruption and discrimination, although they try to hide this at their very best.  We found out the hard way now.

We even think that the Human Right Act 1993 – prohibited grounds for discrimination have not been considered.

The pictures show you how we are now living. Or better said ‘forced’ to live.  We managed to return to our home – which is still for sale – thanks to the support of some people.

We are living now in an empty house. We only have a camping bed, a camping table and a camping chairs. We received that stuff from other people.  So the only thing that belongs to us are our 4 suitcases with summer cloths.

No need to repeat that the whole immigration case has ruined us.   When our house is sold, the extra problem that will arise then is to find another place to stay.

No car, since we sold the car a few days before we should leave Europe. So everything with public transport. But since we live far outside the city center, no need to explain how hard it is to even do your daily grocery shopping.

Thanks New Zealand for putting us in this situation.

We did sent a letter of complaint to John Key to get assistance in our immigration case.  My letter went as a wagon in a carrousel.

1. The assistant of Prime Minister John Key forwarded it to Nikki Kaye (Minister of Immigration and pro gay.)
2. From Nikki Kaye’s office it was forwarded to Immigration Wellington, because
3. Immigration Wellington informed us by email that they had forward it to Immigration London.
4. Last week we received an email from Immigration Henderson – Yes, the letter came back to New Zealand.  Isn’t that a waste of time?

The letter we received from Immigration Henderson was just a small recapitulation of our file but it wasn’t fully complete this recapitulation.  In fact it was no reply whatsoever on our complaint.  They referred again to section 65.  We allways did and still do meet all the requirements of section 65.

Further the letter mentioned nothing about all our certified declaration and our watertight evidence about the stolen emails.  In the letter they mentioned that INZ is still waiting for a substantive response from our side.  That is the almost the same sentences which they wrote a few months ago when we also already provided our certified declaration including the ones of our employer.   So where did they put all those declarations and evidence?

We asked several times in the past what they wanted more in writing from us and never got a reply on that.

Further the letter didn’t mention anything about our acceptance to transfer the file from London to NZ, including the conditions we added to INZ offer.  Our lawyer asked for a reply before 16th September 2014.  Today 22 september 2014 we haven’t received any information.

We wonder for whom deathlines are applicable?  It seems it is only applicable for us and for visa agents, but not for INZ.

So, we have the impression that the file where INZ Henderson has access to is not updated at all.  Or have they not been informed properly? No wonder that the case delays and delays when not all information is considered or read by the INZ officers.

The letter mentioned that INZ is still investigating.  We already asked several times over the last months what they exactly were investigating, but never received a reply on that neither.

It is also strange that the letter talks about INZ in the 3rd person despite it is written by an INZ office.

This is a case were our future and our lifes are involved. It is a serious matter and means a lot to us.  And the fact that the case is already delayed for more then 6 months despite our evidence is putting us each day in a more difficult position.

We really don’t know why this keeps taking so long.   We are the victimes of a disgrunted person and homophobe. Our evidence about the ‘stolen’ emails is clear.  There is no doubt about it that they are unreliable for a great number of reasons.   The certified declarations of our employer and us are clear as well.

Again we have to say that our perception of New Zealand has changed drastically.   Around the world New Zealand shows itself as a beautiful country, which it is, until……..you have experienced how they ‘welcome’ you.  To us it seems we are ‘not welcome’ at all.

Although a lot of people we know and who want to welcome us, nothing is shown from the side of immigration.

Our privacy and the one of our employer has been breached. But since the beginning of this case this privacy breach seems not to bother anyone.   So in fact, people in New Zealand are allowed to breach eachothers privacy and used it to destroy eachother.

We draw also the attention again to the fact that when you have a criminal or convicted background and do not meet the good character requirement, you still are allowed to enter New Zealand if you are rich.  Money makes sure that some rules are all of a sudden not applicable.  Isn’t that a way of corruption?

We are honest people with an impeccable record of behavior, we still meet all requirements, but yet, we are treated as criminals.  Isn’t that a way of discrimination?

We thought that NZ accepted gay-people as same gender marriage was accepted.  But it seems that we, marriage women, are not accepted.

No need to say how dissappointed we are in New Zealand.